Sonda apropo powrotu Tomka // Poll about Tomek's come back

[Sejanus]

cheating was never and never will be allowed, but for that there are de-levels, he had been de-leveled, the ban for was different reason, aka "flame" and behavior. We always have to keep good faith that people can change, if not can ban them back its very simple.

About examples, that was kind of good example by banning top1 to show that no player is untouchable if break rules.

Do not forget what I said in previous post it doesn't go without punishment and never had, 2 months off + de-level after return if allowed to return is not nothing.

[Sejanus]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

[Tomek]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

Hahaha they miss me , and me miss them

[Kirea]

Hahha i think some ppl make more users in forum to vote hahha

[Astu]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

Which should probably tell you that you need to check all the voters are in fact legit.

Also, this is a server related poll.  It tells you that people support cheaters and abusive players.  Which should be somewhat concerning to you imo, unless the majority of voters are fakes...

[Meuss]

yes astu we all are cheaters i cheat everyday since i started and my guild too bcs tomek taught us funny yeah?
jezus u still only cry u dont even know him but u hate him like he killed ur family i dont get it

[Tomek]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

Which should probably tell you that you need to check all the voters are in fact legit.

Also, this is a server related poll.  It tells you that people support cheaters and abusive players.  Which should be somewhat concerning to you imo, unless the majority of voters are fakes...

what me did to you Astu? i just see an Second Tomek in you (mean about cry ) whatever i did to you, hope even you can forgive me , dont try to be "God" who knows everything, coz you dont know m8! Cheers !

[Astu]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

Which should probably tell you that you need to check all the voters are in fact legit.

Also, this is a server related poll.  It tells you that people support cheaters and abusive players.  Which should be somewhat concerning to you imo, unless the majority of voters are fakes...

what me did to you Astu? i just see an Second Tomek in you (mean about cry ) whatever i did to you, hope even you can forgive me , dont try to be "God" who knows everything, coz you dont know m8! Cheers !

I just have issues with cheaters after I've played so many games which have been ruined by them.  I just see any appeasement to cheaters as a betrayal to the rest of the non cheating player base.  By all means make a new char and level it legit, and I would have no issue with you, but unbanning a char that has benefited by cheats at all is complete BS to me.

Seriously would it be that difficult for you to make a new char?  You seemingly have enough friends who want to play with you going by the poll, you shouldn't have any issue being leveled quickly or getting gear.  But no you want the GMs to bend to your will and unban a cheated char which by all rights should be permanently banned.  You call me the one playing god?  I just want punishments to stick.  You are the one who wants GMs, which on this server are gods, to do as you want.  Hypocrisy much?

[Tomek]

so 31 to 13 + 4 neutrals.

Actually never expected so many votes!!

You guys vote more in Tomeks topic than my server related poll!! you will get spankeD!!

Which should probably tell you that you need to check all the voters are in fact legit.

Also, this is a server related poll.  It tells you that people support cheaters and abusive players.  Which should be somewhat concerning to you imo, unless the majority of voters are fakes...

what me did to you Astu? i just see an Second Tomek in you (mean about cry ) whatever i did to you, hope even you can forgive me , dont try to be "God" who knows everything, coz you dont know m8! Cheers !

I just have issues with cheaters after I've played so many games which have been ruined by them.  I just see any appeasement to cheaters as a betrayal to the rest of the non cheating player base.  By all means make a new char and level it legit, and I would have no issue with you, but unbanning a char that has benefited by cheats at all is complete BS to me.

Seriously would it be that difficult for you to make a new char?  You seemingly have enough friends who want to play with you going by the poll, you shouldn't have any issue being leveled quickly or getting gear.  But no you want the GMs to bend to your will and unban a cheated char which by all rights should be permanently banned.  You call me the one playing god?  I just want punishments to stick.  You are the one who wants GMs, which on this server are gods, to do as you want.  Hypocrisy much?

you are wrong, but nevermind, i see you are like a child, whats hard to explain you for what me got ban, true i used cheats any1 knows, but this ends a long long time ago, me got de-level. so what is your problem? me and sej had abit trouble with each other dont feel please your a big point of this situation! if you think i manipulate any1 of these GMs, send them pm and ask them! they have no reason to lie at you i have nothing to hide! Cheers my friend!

[Meuss]

all cheaters had -3lvls look some topics on forum

[Astu]

you are wrong, but nevermind, i see you are like a child, whats hard to explain you for what me got ban, true i used cheats any1 knows, but this ends a long long time ago, me got de-level. so what is your problem? me and sej had abit trouble with each other dont feel please your a big point of this situation! if you think i manipulate any1 of these GMs, send them pm and ask them! they have no reason to lie at you i have nothing to hide! Cheers my friend!

I can assure you I'm no longer a child, but if you have to resort to insulting me then by all means, it just makes you look even worse.  I don't agree with Sej that you should have got away with only delevels, but I've already discussed punishments with him. He's already said you were banned for a combination of cheats and insults, it wasn't down to a single incident but your history of incidents. I, and probably the majority of the player base, would class cheats as a far bigger issue than insults, which is why I keep talking bout them specifically.  GMs probably think the inverse because insults affect them more.

As for you not trying to manipulate GMs, well I think you should read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation and think about how many of those attributes you have.  Honestly, the fact you cheated and abused GMs tells me you are a narcissist.  Manipulating people is just something you try to do, I'm just point it out.

[Fusion]

you are wrong, but nevermind, i see you are like a child, whats hard to explain you for what me got ban, true i used cheats any1 knows, but this ends a long long time ago, me got de-level. so what is your problem? me and sej had abit trouble with each other dont feel please your a big point of this situation! if you think i manipulate any1 of these GMs, send them pm and ask them! they have no reason to lie at you i have nothing to hide! Cheers my friend!

I can assure you I'm no longer a child, but if you have to resort to insulting me then by all means, it just makes you look even worse.  I don't agree with Sej that you should have got away with only delevels, but I've already discussed punishments with him. He's already said you were banned for a combination of cheats and insults, it wasn't down to a single incident but your history of incidents. I, and probably the majority of the player base, would class cheats as a far bigger issue than insults, which is why I keep talking bout them specifically.  GMs probably think the inverse because insults affect them more.

As for you not trying to manipulate GMs, well I think you should read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_manipulation and think about how many of those attributes you have.  Honestly, the fact you cheated and abused GMs tells me you are a narcissist.  Manipulating people is just something you try to do, I'm just point it out.

this guy will you chill out going on a mad one most of the players want him back now its down to GM you need to chill out looks like your getting upset about the thought of tomek coming back what did he do he gave shit to GM dont say he cheated should be baned good few people cheated and got dlvl we past this now

did tomek upset you did he pk you? if so get over it ffs its a part of the game

[Tomek]

I´m done here... always the same about cheats... , you are in every points right Astu, i am an asshole, i am an motherfucker, i am an facking cheater , i am the worsed one on the world! i killed some ppl in real , i spend half life in prison, this is what you want to hear? this making you happy? dont worry, if me comes back, i wont pk any noobs anymore only ppl who wants pvp. let me come back Astu, more ppl will play again on DarkSide = more fun for everyone!

@Sejanus

GM please close this topic, as you see, this havent any sense to continue this discuss. Votes are over, we all know what "Astu" think about me.

Cheers Tomek

[Astu]

this guy will you chill out going on a mad one most of the players want him back now its down to GM you need to chill out looks like your getting upset about the thought of tomek coming back what did he do he gave shit to GM dont say he cheated should be baned good few people cheated and got dlvl we past this now

did tomek upset you did he pk you? if so get over it ffs its a part of the game

As I said, he hasn't done anything to me, I just don't like cheaters and would rather not play with them.  PKers I don't particularly like, but I don't really mind them.  Every server has them, and the game is generally big enough to just avoid them really.  I do take issue to high levels pking low levels though, but afaik this guy never did that?  Whatever.

I´m done here... always the same about cheats... , you are in every points right Astu, i am an asshole, i am an motherfucker, i am an facking cheater , i am the worsed one on the world! i killed some ppl in real , i spend half life in prison, this is what you want to hear? this making you happy? dont worry, if me comes back, i wont pk any noobs anymore only ppl who wants pvp. let me come back Astu, more ppl will play again on DarkSide = more fun for everyone!

@Sejanus

GM please close this topic, as you see, this havent any sense to continue this discuss. Votes are over, we all know what "Astu" think about me.

Cheers Tomek

See, total narcissist behaviour.  I've already said you can by all means return, I just think it should be on a non cheated char.

[Sejanus]

I will lock now:) glad u guys had your SAY!!